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How sure are you?
by ranfuchs @ 05/04/2008 - 10:48:00

Some years ago, my kid got seriously sick, so I went to the doctor. The doctor did what doctors normally do, sent for some tests, looked at some books, spoke on the phone, drank some tea, and finally came with a diagnosis.

Although I know nothing of medicine, but as I often found that I don’t have to know about a subject to follow someone’s resonating, by talking to him and asking question, I managed to follow his mental process, and thought it was flawed, so I challenged him.

First, he got defensive, and insisted that his diagnosis was correct, but when I asked him to sign a statement that he was absolutely sure of his conclusion, and that he would be personally liable in case his diagnosis was proven wrong, he declined. This created an opening to e exploring other paths, until we found what was wrong. His original diagnosis was wrong.

So for those of us who are not suicide bombers with unquestionable convictions, how sure you are you when you are sure of something?. Is there the slightest possibility that you might be wrong?

By the way, my kid was treated, and he is all fine now.

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05/04/08 @ 12:31

I find it mega difficult to be sure of anything much now. Especially what I think other folk feel like. Fairly sure about God, but not the teachings I've had about him (if that makes sense) I know he's there but think he's been stuck in a box by mankind.

PrettyintelligentprincessPrettyintelligentprincess [Member]
05/04/08 @ 13:10

I'm sure people try to be as professional as possible in their capacity as doctor's, teacher's etc...howeverI do believe it is rare we can be certain about one thing. Indeed , it would be a kick against the norm to be so certain...wouldn't it? Hitler's 'Solution' springs to mind.

Lovely to see you btw? How have you been? x

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 14:16

been great. Good to see you too

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 16:13

'Sure' is a purely subjective assessment of a situation.
but then, so is any assessment we may have.
I'm curious as to what country you were in when you had this encounter?

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 16:19

Actually it was England. A strange place that doctors don't like to be challenged

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 16:23

interesting...
God, I wish I had your guts.
I was going to say, 'balls', but I didn't want to be misconstrued :>

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 16:32

how can anyone misconstrue balls?

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 16:36

misconstruing is only one of many things you can do with them...
if you have enough imagination :>

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:09

I don't :(

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:13

Well, if that sad face is an attempt to get my sympathy in the hope that I'll explain, you're out of luck.

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:51

ok. Worth the try anyway

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:52

Well.....

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:52

... you can always.....

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:53

... play tennis with them :)

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 18:11

off I go

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:17

So, how did they bounce?
Score any aces?

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:22

still bouncing

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:30

Doesn't that get kind of painful after a while??

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:32

don't know. Left them on the field

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:33

Most people play on a court.

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:37

this is why they never become good players

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:42

And you, no doubt, are one of the best?

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:47

no, I am crap at it.

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:56

... which is why you left your balls on the field :(

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 20:58

no, I never picked them up.

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 21:07

So, they're still rolling around out there?

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 21:09

I don't know. They have their own free will, and I am here by the computer

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Melinda_blogMelinda_blog [Member]
05/04/08 @ 21:24

How do you know they have free will?
Maybe they are governed by a power beyond your understanding.

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 21:51

I don't know. Just like I don't know that I have free will

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CassandraofTroyCassandraofTroy [Member]
05/04/08 @ 22:13

No. you are here by the computer.
or so you say.

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jenrayjenray pro
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05/04/08 @ 16:58

I challenged a doctor once who operated on my youngest son for an undescended testicle and it was discovered it had been absorbed back into his body because they'd left it too late and the first operation to bring it down failed...the stitches fell out of this one ...and left an open wound on his testicle and I had to burn the matter than was coming out of his testicle with silver nitrate... it really hurt him...the consultant said that was nonsense there was no feeling in his testicles!!....when I asked why this had happened and why had they not suggested trying to bring it down before it got absorbed back into his body...he went red in the face and said what did I want him to do.. wave a bloody magic wand and make it all right or put him under again and sew him up again?...I could have killed the bastard right there and then, but I was so shocked I just shut my mouth...some doctors are absolute pompous bastards and need taking down a peg or two...I have very little respect for most consultants I'm afraid...

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 17:07

so some things can be said for the american way, when you can simply take them to court and deflate them

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jenrayjenray pro
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05/04/08 @ 17:38

I guess so, but don't like the American way of sue anything that moves...

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ranfuchsranfuchs [Member]
05/04/08 @ 18:08

so we must seek some workable compromise

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